The list of twelve cars is a very interesting one. A couple of the cars are obvious candidates for disposal: two ex-Philadelphia cars that are virtually certain never to run, either in San Francisco or anywhere else. Car 1064 never actually wore that number in service; it was acquired back in 1990, the first PCC purchased from Philadelphia, and was intended to be rebuilt to supplement the original F-Market fleet of ex-Philly PCC cars but when disassembled was found to be very badly rusted. It has been stored in mostly disassembled state for some two decades. Car 1054 was part of the original F-Market PCC fleet but on November 16, 2003 it was rear-ended and suffered catastrophic frame damage. Judged irreparable, it's been in dead storage since.
Then there are the two Pittsburgh PCC cars, 4008 and 4009, which have never run in San Francisco and have been stored since acquisition 17 years ago. These were cars that were completely rebuilt in the late 1980s from 1700-series postwar PCC cars, so their body construction differs significantly from original PCC cars. They also have sealed windows, potentially a liability in California. They are, however, complete and generally undamaged cars and are being offered complete - unlike the other cars on the list, which are going to be (or already have been) stripped for parts by Muni prior to sale or donation.
And finally there are the five ex-St. Louis Public Service cars, 1106, 1108, 1125, 1139, and 1140 (not be confused with 1040). Muni currently has no fewer than 12 of these ex-SLPS cars in storage (though one, car 1704, is restored to St. Louis colors and is considered a bit separately from the rest). Unlike with the "Baby Tens," the SLPS cars do not seem to have benefited from time away from Muni's care. Two of the cars, 1106 and 1140, were sold by Muni in 1994 (after a period of storage after retirement) to a collector in Lodi, California, from whom SFMR got the cars back in the early 2000s. A third car, 1108, was owned for a number of years by something called the Western Railroaders Hall of Fame. The other two cars being disposed of have been stored by Muni since retirement in 1982 (as have six of the seven ex-SLPS cars being retained).
One of the really interesting things about the document is that it appears that Market Street Railway Association disagreed with some of the cars being gotten rid of. Its judgment was that three PCC cars being retained by Muni - 1026, 1027, and 1028, all "Baby Tens" sold by Muni to Tahoe Valley Lines in 1994 and bought back in 2001 - were in worse condition than six of the cars on the disposal list. MSRA recommended that of those six cars - ex-SLPS 1106, 1108, 1139, and 1140, and Pittsburgh 4008 and 4009 - three be selected for retention and the three "Baby Tens" be disposed of. Muni seems to have declined to follow this suggestion.
An interesting - but understandable - aspect of this disposition is that it seems to largely disregard the difference between the Muni-original "Baby Tens" and the secondhand 1100s. Muni has rebuilt many cars in recent years but has yet to send out even a single ex-SLPS PCC for full rebuild. However in recent years Brookville, Muni's rebuilder of choice, has been fitting new-build Westinghouse-style PCC equipment to all rebuilt cars - including cars that, like the 1100s, started life with GE PCC equipment. It seems likely that Muni is viewing its remaining cars as shells, cars to be fitted with new electric equipment regardless of what they carry now.
All twelve cars marked for disposition have been noted as "for sale." The original Muni document is worth reading, as it suggests that major components will be removed from many of the cars (except for 4008 and 4009), meaning those cars are virtually certain to be scrapped. Even the remaining ex-Muni cars will be stripped of many components so they'll presumably be virtual shells.
I wish I still lived in the City. I'd love to buy some components and incorporate them in my home. :-( -Jaron
ReplyDeleteEstoy interesado en adquirir una carcaza completa de un tranvia sin motor para restaurarlo y colocarlo en la plaza principal de mi ciudad Tampico Tam México.. Xq hace algún tiempo tuvimos tranvías circulando como trasporte público y deseo devolver ahora como atracción esa unida d.. Fabor de contactarme pRa el tema expuesto.. Gracias.. Saludos
ReplyDeleteSorry for the delayed response. You can try contacting the Seashore Trolley Museum (www.trolleymuseum.org), which has several streetcars available for sale right now. The National Museum of Transportation (tnmot.org) also has a PCC streetcar for sale that is the same type as the ones that operated in Tampico.
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