The Other Streetcars of Perris

I'm working on more list cleanup, and of the 13 cars recently on the PNAERC list with their condition listed as "unknown," four were located in Perris, California. None were at the Southern California Railway Museum, though.

The first is Los Angeles Transit Lines 1435, the condition of which is a mystery at this point. I've written about the car here, here, and here, but that last update from nearly a year ago had the car being sold at auction. At the time, it was located at the Southern California Fairgrounds, but I don't know whether it's still there or whether it was sold and moved. Any information is appreciated.

And then there are three cars listed under Electric Railway Historical Association ownership. These cars are, or were, LARy 34, LARy 44, and San Diego Electric Railway 201. All were center-entrance cars; the SDER car was built in 1914 by St. Louis, car 44 was built in 1904 by St. Louis as a class B "standard" and rebuilt in 1915 as a class C "Sowbelly, and car 34 had a convoluted history dating to its construction in 1897 by American. It started as Los Angeles Traction 90, then ran for "old" Pacific Electric as their 780 until 1912, when it was sold to LARy and rebuilt as a class A "Maggie" numbered 33. Just two years later, it was rebuilt as a class C "Sowbelly."

These cars were owned by the late Ben Minnich and stored on property adjacent to SCRM starting around 1995-1996. The above aerial photo dates to the early 2010s and comes from Bing maps. You can see the two "Sowbellies" near the upper left corner with TTC 4460 in the lower right corner. The SDER car already seems to be missing.

And this much more recent image is from Google Maps. The TTC PCC is still down in the corner, so it's presumed to still be there, but the LARy cars are gone. I do note, however, that there seems to be a pile of debris where one of them used to sit. I've decided to take all three of these cars off the PNAERC list on the assumption they've collapsed or been scrapped. If anyone has information to the contrary, please let me know.

With the removal of these three cars, there are no longer any cars listed on the PNAERC list under ERHA ownership (the Toronto PCC is listed under separate, private ownership) and the total number of cars on the list now stands at 2,087, of which just 10 have their condition listed as "unknown."